I have for sale a black, generic english saddle. It has been used about 30 times, but I just recently got a new saddle so I no longer need this one. Here is the link of the product: http://www.statelinetack.com/item/e conomy-english-starter-set/SLT70063 3/ This saddle comes with: saddle, stirrup leathers, stirrups, stirrup pads, and the girth the saddle came with. (It is a size 52 or 54, I cant remember). The gullet is 6¾ inches. The slot that the excess stirrup leather goes through (dont know the name, sorry) fell off on one side, but the saddle is still 100% functional. I can take a specific pic of it for you to see if you want. If you want to know any other info or want pics, let me know!