17" with the cair system. I have had this saddle for a little over 2 years now. I absolutely love it besides the fact that it is just too big for me! I got a 17" thinking that I might grow a little more but never did. It has minor wear, just were the stirrup leathers have rubbed. No big scratches. In great condition. Comes with a medium size gullet and used bates stirrup leathers. Asking $849.00 OBO 843-518-2478
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