i have a well maintained classic courbette dressage saddle. its a 16 inch seat. it is oiled and placed in a saddle cover and stored inside on a saddle rack in my house, not tossed around like every other saddle. it is from the Beim Kloster Schonthal sattlerei. on the underflap between the girth straps and the top flap (sorry i dont know english saddle terms that well) it has some writting on it and the row of numbers says *"12538 1 32"* it has other writting that says stuff on it but it is fadded. it has normal wearing where you legs go, but that is it no rips or gouges on it. i have ridden in it once it feels great but i am sticking to my western. its a very nice saddle, to good to be sitting around my house, make me an offer. have some more pictures, 920-904-0990, give me a call, i dont have a computer at home and dont get to check my email that often.